tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post7698019510906344583..comments2023-09-18T17:18:04.966+07:00Comments on My simple contemplation: Islam and Feminism (Again)Nana Podunggehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14235543550591163972noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-9965880430267528962007-10-03T17:00:00.000+07:002007-10-03T17:00:00.000+07:00You mentioned: .."Vote for me. INSYA ALLAH ..." he...You mentioned: .."Vote for me. INSYA ALLAH ..." he just sold God's name for his own benefit...<BR/><BR/>Do play your part to educate Muslim masses so as not be trapped again and again by the opportunists...malaysia baruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10160096834966684264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-15120541737769895892007-06-09T09:20:00.000+07:002007-06-09T09:20:00.000+07:00Thanks for the comment, John.I do agree with you t...Thanks for the comment, John.<BR/>I do agree with you that bad and greedy people (greedy for power, I mean) will interpret bad things on anything. Misogynist people will produce misogynist interpretations too, that's for sure. :)Nana Podunggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235543550591163972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-86031828960260216112007-06-05T00:48:00.000+07:002007-06-05T00:48:00.000+07:00nice post btw! :)i think bad people ill interpret ...nice post btw! :)<BR/><BR/>i think bad people ill interpret bad stuff from the koran / bible etc anyways.<BR/><BR/>and good people will interpret good things.<BR/><BR/>so that's why it's not a good idea to judge people on their religions but on their actions.<BR/><BR/>also, i think part of the problem is that wahabi culture for example is quite mysogynistic -- so they interpret the koran in a mysogynistic way...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523641844919145486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-9763507923655037772007-06-02T20:10:00.000+07:002007-06-02T20:10:00.000+07:00You can click this link Triesti.http://afemalegues...You can click this link Triesti.<BR/><BR/>http://afemaleguest.blog.co.uk/2007/03/27/islam_and_feminism~1983850Nana Podunggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235543550591163972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-35121573209600501522007-06-02T20:08:00.000+07:002007-06-02T20:08:00.000+07:00Very interesting, Triesti. That's exactly what I s...Very interesting, Triesti. That's exactly what I said to people around me when some years ago, the present president campaigned, "Vote for me. INSYA ALLAH ..." he just sold God's name for his own benefit, to be chosen as president, because Indonesian people would consider him as a good Muslim only by citing the words INSYA ALLAH, since the majorities are Muslim.Nana Podunggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235543550591163972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-46779718978852181942007-06-02T19:46:00.000+07:002007-06-02T19:46:00.000+07:00i checked your other blog, but didnt see that comm...i checked your other blog, but didnt see that comment. Did you filter it? what did you say to him?triestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633001803711000905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-9705197073503190052007-06-02T19:39:00.000+07:002007-06-02T19:39:00.000+07:00Thanks for the link, Triesti. Btw, I got a very an...Thanks for the link, Triesti. <BR/>Btw, I got a very annoying comment in my afemaleguest.blog.co.uk that I suspect the writer is someone from those Arabic countries, that really hate to see people with other religions, and also women who are aware about their rights (read -> that they are equal with men).Nana Podunggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235543550591163972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-34358125559954211172007-06-02T19:37:00.000+07:002007-06-02T19:37:00.000+07:00'When talking about Syariat Islam (Islamic Law) in...'When talking about Syariat Islam (Islamic Law) in Indonesia, why are the regulations misogynistic? '<BR/><BR/>Do you notice the places that implementing sharia are mostly in poverty? I guess implementing sharia in RI is a way to divert ppl attention from poverty & it's problems. It keeps the 'weak-minded' guys happy, thinking that they did something good to 'protect' fellow brothers from going astray. They are not protecting women. They never did. They did it to gain votes for the next election.triestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633001803711000905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21802836.post-90006361353645244662007-06-02T19:26:00.000+07:002007-06-02T19:26:00.000+07:00this is the correct link: http://www.islamworld.ne...this is the correct link: http://www.islamworld.net/compwomen.html<BR/><BR/>I dont think Amina wadud is malaysian, I think she's American. she used to work in malaysia, tho. But I might be wrong. <BR/><BR/>I agree that in comparison with other Abrahamic Faiths, the position of women in Islam /back in 7th century/ was better. But it doesnt mean that Koran is free of gender-biased. Unlike you I do, however, think there are still some gender biased verses in it. And those verses, along with some hadists, are the ones that men use to uphold the patriarchal system. <BR/><BR/>as for your question: 'why are now even Islamic teachings considered as more misogynist?' because in every day life, there are practices that absolutely not female friendly. Remember taliban & their banning girls & women to attain education & have jobs. Heck, you cant even drive or work in Saudi. Women need to cover up even their face, cut their genital because they are all temptresses. according to them women are the reason of the down fall of the world. They, taliban-saudi et al, are all saying it is what Allah wants, because the Koran or hadist said so. <BR/><BR/>I can understand why some 'good Moslems' only willing to imitate the prophet's clothing or beard, but not his feminist view? because it is easy to just adorn some clothing or not shaving. But it's not easy to see your wife goes to war next to you, having discussion with you, or having a good (g_d forbid, better than yours) business (that's what some of the prophet's wives did, right?) <BR/><BR/>What I cant understand is how come ppl cling so tightly to some laws that /was/ progressive 1400 years ago but so backward nowadays such as giving permission of marrying 4 women to help them, or needing two women to testify instead of one. <BR/>Open your mind & evolve, people!triestihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633001803711000905noreply@blogger.com